On 5 Mar 2022, at 01:05, Lee Gibbins lee@4on.co.uk wrote:
This is a discussion that should not be happening.
Whatever the crazy leader of Russia is doing, it should have no influence over our internet registries or any groups which are purposed to discuss what is a completely independent community.
Repeat this when Putin comes to your country.
By making this a spectacle we are only playing in tk to the Hands of the dictators
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On 4 Mar 2022, at 20:43, C A a0044c@gmail.com wrote:
Why is this political nonsense polluting my inbox?
The chair stepped down. Organise a new chair.
If the community doesnt exist it will die on it's own through lack of participation.
Stop with the cancel culture shenanigains.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2022, 21:37 NOC, noc@medsigroup.ru wrote: Спасибо, что поправили. ?
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-----Original Message----- From: ripe@voks.ua [mailto:ripe@voks.ua] Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 11:30 PM To: NOC noc@medsigroup.ru Cc: Denys Fedoryshchenko nuclearcat@nuclearcat.com; exec-board@ripe.net; ENOG enog@ripe.net; discuss@enog.org; Members Discuss members-discuss@ripe.net; RIPE Programme Committee pc@ripe.net; ENOG Programme Committee pc@enog.org Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
Если это вопрос - в конце должен стоять вопросительный знак, не так ли?
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On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 08:27:22PM +0000, NOC wrote
Добрый вечер! А мы тут политику обсуждаем или насущные технические вопросы!
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-----Original Message----- From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Denys Fedoryshchenko Sent: Friday, March 4, 2022 10:07 PM To: exec-board@ripe.net; ENOG enog@ripe.net; discuss@enog.org; Members Discuss members-discuss@ripe.net; RIPE Programme Committee pc@ripe.net; ENOG Programme Committee pc@enog.org Subject: Re: [members-discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of ENOG, there are proper, democratic voting procedures. When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community, reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official position or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all.
Considering that many of the people are in a difficult emotional state and a state of great stress, which interfere with their ability making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this matter in the fall. I hope by this time the events will have settled down.
Peace for all, NO TO WAR.
On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
Peace, (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, — because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)
As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential future meetings indefinitely.
Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian, Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other regional communities in the hope of building a better shared Internet space among the communities.
In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for all the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as ENOG at the time.
Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC.
Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further due diligence, to hold any official community position in the RIPE community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair.
It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act. It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any future alignments to replace ENOG.
Stay safe.
-- Töma
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