Hi Aleksi!
I am 100% sure that we in Ukraine will have a normal face-to-face NOG meeting right after the war.
But regional coordination is also a thing, so the idea of CENOG looks really promising to me. Not as a separate big shiny NOG (at least, at the beginning), but exactly as a coordination instrument.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 8:05 AM Aleksi Suhonen enog-2022@ssd.axu.tm wrote:
Hello,
On 10/03/2022 22:14, Alex Semenyaka wrote:
There is UANOG. It never gathered as a face-to-face meeting, but it is alive as a mailing list during like last 20 years... I do believe that it can be augmented with meetings, why not?
While I'm not Ukrainian, I say you definitely should have local NOG meetings too. Nothing makes local IXPs and ISPs grow more than meeting the others in person. Regional NOG meetings have their place and purpose, but local NOGs are possibly even more important.
But also I do believe that horizontal interaction between different NOGs in similar countries could be really profitable, and here CENOG can help as an umbrella. Not substitution for the national NOGs, but a mechanism providing their interaction between each other.
RIPE has the nog-org mailing list for this purpose:
https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/nog-org
RIPE is also organising an open house for NOG organisers in April:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/open-house/ripe-ncc-open-house-org...
I think the best way forward is to take a little bit of a breather, maybe a year or two, and use that time to create new connections with other NOGs and rekindle old ones.
When the dust has settled we should rethink what we want and what we need. Maybe it's ENOG, maybe it's CENOG, maybe it's something else - time will tell. But making hasty decisions right now doesn't seem like a good idea in the long run.
I am from Finland, why am I here?
Well ... I'm part of the team that runs NOG meetings in Finland, and some years ago RIPE told me to join this mailing list to advertise our events. I was also planning to propose a bid to host an ENOG meeting in Finland, but it seems that's not going to happen now.
Anyway, we are planning our next nog.fi meeting on Wednesday June 15th in Tampere, Finland. As our plans mature, there will be more and more information at our web site:
We live in uncertain times, and there are still so many factors that can force us to cancel the event, but I'm trying not to dwell on that.
Best Regards,
-- Aleksi Suhonen
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