Peace. (Now I agree with this Töma's greeting and appreciate it very much.)
Russia did exceptionally much to rally different countries around it. Except itself. I don't see any future for ENOG in the state of previous years. And I think that this name doesn't cost all these letters, it already means nothing.
On 7 Mar 2022, at 09:56, Dmitry Kohmanyuk dk@hostmaster.ua wrote:
On 2022-03-06, at 22:30, Maksym Tulyuk maksym@tulyuk.com wrote:
Dear Anton,
Let’s looks at the facts not references to "de facto as a civil society movement” under Russian law: • As far as I know the official list of ENOG founders does neither exist nor publish on the website enog.org • The domain enog.org is owned by RIPE NCC • 1st ENOG meeting started with the words "Dear colleagues, I am glad to welcome you at the 1st international meeting of ENOG–the Eurasian Forum of Internet Operators – co-hosted by RIPE NCC and the Coordination Center for TLD RU” - no reference to any civil society movement. • Each ENOG had a list of hosts and sponsors and I have never seen any "civil society movement” you mentioned in these lists • RIPE NCC is located in Amsterdam, the Kingdom of the Netherlands i.e. it is under Dutch (not Russian) law Based on the facts above I assume RIPE NCC has all necessary rights to do what many of us is asking: cancelling ENOG for good.
I do see option two:
A permanent ban on all participants from Russia and Belarus in future ENOG events. Would that work?
Let’s have a honest discussion.
Also, as ENOG seems to be comprised of all the countries that used to be under Moscow sphere of influence, I wonder if Finland should join.
Yours sincerely, Maksym Tulyuk Former ENOG PC member
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