Hi, all! I would like to believe that this "freeze" in RIPE NCC' activities in Russia is connected just with formal issues. And I want to believe that RIPE NCC will try to unite its members (and members of RIPE community) in different ways. BTW, as a co-host of linkmeup[1], I'm ready to provide slots in our podcast and our off-line meetup in Moscow[2] to discuss any technical topics relevant for ENOG meetings. [1] - https://t.me/linkmeup_podcast [2] - https://meetup.linkmeup.ru/ пн, 3 июл. 2023 г. в 20:51, Alexander Isavnin <isavnin(a)freemoscow.university > Dear Hisham! > > Thank you for the kind words to the ones, who contributed their time and > effort to ENOG! > > Did i got right from your e-mail, that RIPE NCC is going to abandon it’s > activities in Russia? No Internet Measurement Days or RIPE NCC days seen in > forseeable meeting plans on the website. > So called Baykal NOG you’ve mentioned is the sales-oriented commercial > conference aka x-cos.ru, previously sponsored by SORM surviellance > equipment producers. > > Abandoning technical community in one country (even insistently requested > by some persons from other) could lead to abandoning in other countries, > and then fading role of the whole technical community and sunsetting of > RIPE. > > Kind regards, > Alexander Isavnin > > Пн, 3 июля 2023 г. в 16:05, Hisham Ibrahim <hmi(a)ripe.net> >> Dear colleagues, >> >> ENOG (Eurasian Network Operators' Group) was established in June 2011 as >> a means to bring RIPE and the RIPE NCC closer to the local communities in >> Eurasia and to support Internet development in the region. >> >> Last year, we indefinitely postponed what would have been the 19th ENOG >> Meeting, slated to be held in Moscow. In the run up to that decision, we >> heard from many community members, first at a Birds of a Feather (BoF) >> session on the future of ENOG at ENOG 19 and subsequently during the BoF at >> RIPE 85 in Belgrade and on the ENOG Discuss mailing list. I then shared an >> email to the ENOG Discuss list, outlining the RIPE NCC’s view on the matter >> [1]. >> >> These dialogues highlighted the complexities involved in continuing >> engagement efforts through ENOG and we appreciate the community’s >> willingness to have difficult but much needed conversations. In light of >> these discussions, we believe it is time to dissolve ENOG as a RIPE NCC >> regional platform. It is in no one’s interest to continue to support a >> platform that can no longer serve its purpose or deliver meaningful >> outcomes. If, in the future, the community indicates that there is a >> constructive role for ENOG to play, we will be open to this discussion. >> >> In practical terms, this means that we will archive the ENOG website and >> sunset the mailing list as of 31 July 2023, after which it will be kept as >> a read-only site. ENOG Meetings have already ceased to take place, and we >> will not plan ENOG Meetings for the foreseeable future. We thank everyone >> who has contributed their time and effort towards ENOG over the past decade. >> >> The RIPE NCC remains as committed as ever to supporting the technical >> communities in our service region. Our focus going forward will be on more >> localised efforts, whether this is training, workshops, providing staff to >> speak at events or supporting NOGs. >> >> Since our decision to postpone ENOG 19, we have also hosted our first >> Central Asia Peering and Interconnection Forum meeting in Kazakhstan last >> year, and the second of these events will take place in Tashkent, >> Uzbekistan from 19-20 September 2023 [2]. We will continue to host smaller >> events such as RIPE NCC Days and Internet Measurement Days (IMD) in the >> region that used to be covered by ENOG events, such as the IMD Kyrgyzstan >> which took place recently. We’ve supported other events including the KZ >> NOG, Baykal NOG, the Georgia NOG, the Kyrgyzstan IT Forum and the Central >> Asia, Armenia, Georgia and Moldova Internet Governance Forums (IGFs). We >> continue to engage with the Ukrainian Internet community through various >> online initiatives and our staff in Ukraine. >> >> We encourage you to take a look at NOGs and other activities taking place >> within the region [3]. >> >> Please reach out to us if you have thoughts on how we can better support >> the technical communities in your region. >> >> Regards, >> Hisham Ibrahim >> Chief Community Officer >> RIPE NCC >> >> [1] A request to terminate ENOG: >> https://enog-apps-2.ripe.net/hyperkitty/list/discuss@enog.org/thread/3AJSUF… >> >> [2] CAPIF 2: Tashkent: >> https://www.ripe.net/capif-2 >> >> [3] Network Operator Groups: >> https://labs.ripe.net/nogs/ >> _______________________________________________ >> discuss mailing list -- discuss(a)enog.org >> To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave(a)enog.org >> > _______________________________________________ > discuss mailing list -- discuss(a)enog.org > To unsubscribe send an email to discuss-leave(a)enog.org > -- С уважением Учакин Алексей.