Colleagues,
Unfortunately I do not subscribe to the RIPE mail list members-discuss@ripe.net and I would appreciate if one of you who is subscribed to it forward my email there.
Thank you, Maksym ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Maksym Tulyuk maksym@tulyuk.com Date: 4 Mar 2022, 10:54 +0100 To: exec-board@ripe.net, RIPE Programme Committee pc@ripe.net Cc: discuss@enog.org, Members Discuss members-discuss@ripe.net, ENOG Programme Committee pc@enog.org Subject: Re: [ENOG discuss] A request to terminate ENOG
Dear RIPE Executive board and Programme Committee,
I, Maksym Tulyuk, a former member of ENOG programme committee, completely and unquestioningly support the idea of termination of ENOG.
In addition to what Töma Gavrichenkov wrote in his email I would like to share my experience and thoughts as the former ENOG PC member.
In my opinion, ENOG did not die at 24 February 2022 - it died in 2014 when, after Russian annexation of Crimea, Ukrainian ENOG community completely ignored ENOG 7 conference in Moscow and it was represented by two Ukrainians (who de-facto worked for Dutch and Russian companies).
Today I feel guilt and shame that I did not use my position of the member of Program Committee to turn the attention to that fact and, as a result, we have the same situation in 2022: Russian Army is attacking (again) Ukraine and RIPE NCC (again) continues organising regional meeting ENOG 19 in Moscow at 20-21 June 2022 - see the attached copy of ENOG website.
I encourage RIPE Executive board and Programme Committee be more brave that I was and terminate ENOG and here I would like to highlight the usage of the verb “terminate” not “postpone”.
P.S. Also, I encourage former and current members of ENOG Programme Committee support the idea of Töma Gavrichenkov, Alex Semenyaka and Maksym Tulyuk and publicly ask about ENOG dissolution
Yours sincerely, Maksym Tulyuk On 3 Mar 2022, 23:47 +0100, Alex Semenyaka alex.semenyaka@gmail.com, wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I agree that the united community with horizontal links does not exist anymore. Thus, let me step down from the position of the ENOG PC Vice-Chair. Thank you.
On Fri, Mar 4, 2022 at 12:44 AM Töma Gavrichenkov ximaera@gmail.com wrote:
Peace, (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, — because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)
As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential future meetings indefinitely.
Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian, Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other regional communities in the hope of building a better shared Internet space among the communities.
In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for all the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as ENOG at the time.
Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC.
Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further due diligence, to hold any official community position in the RIPE community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair.
It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act. It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any future alignments to replace ENOG.
Stay safe.
-- Töma
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